The Talk Show

  • Episode 37
  • April 16, 2013

Live from Úll 2013

50:38 Download MP3 (23.2 MB)

Recorded in front of a live audience at the Úll conference in Dublin, Ireland, Michael Lopp joins John Gruber. Topics include: Ron Johnson’s stint as CEO at JC Penney, Apple’s lack of new products so far this year, and the design of tech conferences.

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